Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/27/2006 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 310 EMPLOYMENT OF PRISONERS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 310 Out of Committee
+= SB 289 INSURANCE TELECONFERENCED
<Above Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ SB 189 REQUIREMENTS FOR DRIVER'S LICENSE/I.D. TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 189(STA) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
9:23:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 189(STA)                                                                                            
     "An Act relating to issuance of identification cards and to                                                                
     issuance of driver's licenses; and providing for an                                                                        
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the first hearing for  this bill in the  Senate Finance                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:23:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CHARLIE  HUGGINS, sponsor  of this  bill testified  it is                                                               
important  to the  country and  to  the state.  It provides  that                                                               
Alaska "does  its part."  In May 2005,  President George  W. Bush                                                               
signed the Real  ID Act into law,  which establishes requirements                                                               
that states must comply with.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins  stated that  legal  residents  and US  citizens                                                               
would  not  be  impacted  by this  legislation.  It  would  cause                                                               
difficulty  for people  in the  country  illegally by  preventing                                                               
them from obtaining a drivers license.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins informed  that  the Division  of Motor  Vehicles                                                               
accepts  15  to  20  types  of  documents  for  drivers'  license                                                               
issuance. The drivers' license of a  person residing in the US as                                                               
a college  student, or residents  "on an indefinite visit  to the                                                               
United States  of America  from outside"  would expire  after one                                                               
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins concluded that this  legislation would provide it                                                               
very difficult  or impossible for  a person in the  United States                                                               
illegally to obtain a drivers license in the state of Alaska.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:25:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green noted the large  demonstration held in Washington,                                                               
DC on US immigration policy that where recently held.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Green  asked   if  this   legislation  would   require                                                               
additional identification from US citizens.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:26:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins replied  that  this bill  would  not change  the                                                               
status of those people.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:26:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  shared that he  had unsuccessfully  attempted to                                                               
use his State-issued Senate ID card to board an airline.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:26:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins told  of a  possible argument  in opposition  to                                                               
this bill  is a  claim that  it is an  attempt at  implementing a                                                               
national  identification system.  However,  this  bill would  not                                                               
accomplish this.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:27:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken noted  the  reference  to "conditional  resident                                                               
alien" on page 1, line 8 of  the bill, and asked if this pertains                                                               
to a person with a "green card".                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:27:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH  GRUNDMANN, Staff  to Senator  Huggins, read  the federal                                                               
definition of conditional resident alien as follows.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     A conditional resident alien is  any alien granted permanent                                                               
     resident status  on a conditional  basis. Example:  a spouse                                                               
     of a  US citizen, an  immigrant investor who is  required to                                                               
     petition for  the removal  of the  set of  conditions before                                                               
     the   second  anniversary   of  approval   of  his   or  her                                                               
     conditional status.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Grundmann was  unsure if this included  individuals holding a                                                               
green card.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:28:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DUANE BANNOCK,  Director, Division of Motor  Vehicles, Department                                                               
of  Administration, testified  via teleconference  from Anchorage                                                               
that Senator  Huggins adeptly explained  why this  legislation is                                                               
important. It would make the  Division compliant with the federal                                                               
Real ID Act.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bannock  stated that  under the provisions  of this  bill, to                                                               
obtain an Alaska  drivers' license a person must be  a US citizen                                                               
or prove  that they are residing  in the country legally.  In the                                                               
case of  legal residents who  are not US citizens  the expiration                                                               
date of the drivers' license would be different.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bannock  spoke to misinformation  regarding the Real  ID Act,                                                               
of which this  legislation is one component. As a  result of past                                                               
administration  policies  of  the  Division,  Alaska  is  already                                                               
nearly  compliant  with the  federal  law.  The majority  of  the                                                               
Division's  policies have  been established  in regulation.  This                                                               
bill would make much of the regulation statutory.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:30:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATTHEW  KERR   testified  via  teleconference  from   an  offnet                                                               
location that he  opposed this bill and the federal  Real ID Act.                                                               
He   predicted  significant   financial  costs   associated  with                                                               
frequent license  renewals. A foreign  student would  be required                                                               
to visit  the Division  up to five  times during  their four-year                                                               
education,  which  would  be  inconvenient  to  the  student  and                                                               
cumbersome for  the Division. If  he were a student  from another                                                               
country attending college in the  US and this legislation were in                                                               
effect, he  would ignore its  provisions and continue  to utilize                                                               
his drivers' license from his  home country. This would result in                                                               
increased  public   safety  expenses.  Drivers   operating  motor                                                               
vehicles  in the  US should  receive  training to  drive in  this                                                               
country.  The  driving  laws and  requirements  for  obtaining  a                                                               
license in Russia are considerably different.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:36:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green indicated  she would distribute a  written copy of                                                               
the Mr. Kerr's testimony if he provided it to her office.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:37:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  asserted that Mr.  Kerr just explained  why this                                                               
legislation   is   necessary.   Protection   against   foreigners                                                               
intending harm  to the US  is not the  sole task of  each state's                                                               
Division  of  Motor  Vehicles,  or  state  law  enforcement,  the                                                               
Federal  Bureau of  Investigation,  or  the Central  Intelligence                                                               
Agency. It is the responsibility of all these agencies.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins  was  not   concerned  that  a  foreign-national                                                               
college  student attending  the University  of Alaska,  Anchorage                                                               
must  renew his  or her  drivers'  license each  year. A  college                                                               
student   in  North   Carolina  recently   "rammed  through   the                                                               
population",  giving his  reason as  "he didn't  like the  people                                                               
there [be]cause he thought that  they were… killing people of his                                                               
religious  group." Senator  Huggins  stressed,  "That's the  real                                                               
world."  If   the  Alaska  Division   of  Motor   Vehicles  could                                                               
discourage such  occurrences, or contribute  in the capture  of a                                                               
non-citizen with  similar intentions,  this legislation  would be                                                               
successful.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:38:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken offered a motion to report the bill from                                                                        
Committee with individual recommendations and accompanying                                                                      
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Without objection CS SB 189(STA) was MOVED from Committee with                                                                  
fiscal note #1 of $20,000 from the Department of Administration.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:38:54 AM AT EASE                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:39:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken announced  that the  budget subcommittees  would                                                               
conclude  and  the  full  Committee  would  consider  the  FY  07                                                               
operating budget during the following  weeks. A schedule would be                                                               
published soon.                                                                                                                 

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